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He signed up for it. He took the risk. Sorry for family. His action was voluntary in a very dangerous situation.
/not an expert, but…/ Just because you sign a waiver, or "accept the consequences" of what you're entering into when you get into a "street race", that doesn't mean there isn't a level of responsibility to be taken on by the producers of such an event — which is why they have insurance. For example, you can't just sign a waiver to allow someone to cook and eat you (!), the person doing the cooking and eating is not absolved of all responsibility just because of a signed waiver! If the insurance provider disagrees about the basis for a claim against them, that's why we have courts. Criminality is another "kettle of fish", and again that's for a court to decide if there was additional liability. I agree, doesn't look great for Street Outlaws, they may have to reconsider the viability of the concept.
Hey sim I don't think the show should be at fault we ad racers know the risks we take when we start in them cars I mean it's quite unfortunate that happened but I'm pretty sure they all signed some sort of contract and or waiver. As always keep up the awesome work let's go ttve đź’Ş đź’Ż
As JJ says " Every time you buckle in that car , might be the night you Die " That accident was Tragic and a loss of human life by accident is always incredibly sad . But , he knew the risks , just like all the drivers do . Sueing isn't going to bring him back . My family would be grateful I died doing something I loved .
Was there a waiver signed ? If not why were they on the set ?
That's bullshit nobody should get sued in this situation he know the risk he ran the road he did something he shouldn't have done and it sucks that the man died it does it really really does but your family should not be able to come back and Sue for this people like this make me sick
Maybe you should take some classes to learn how to spell. Sued
Can't believe the Safety crew couldn't respond faster nor him have a fire suppression system in place.I believe his family should get paid IMO for their loss!
There just money hungry but like you said they sign a waver which protects street outlaws. Don't get me wrongbit sucks that he died but it was his choice to race they did not make him race he did it on his own ..
Hello Sim, you know the biggest problem street outlaws has is it's an illegal street race. That means people will want to do the same thing no matter what they say. My brothers and I were involved for years until they hit the track, which is where we stayed. On street outlaws, the race is run as safely as possible, but most do it like my friend did and die. It was just a matter of time before this happened. NPK is the replacement. Having said that. I love the new show. Real cars and trucks most people can build at home.
Of course, the family is going to file a lawsuit. They have that right, but with the signed wavers to protect the company they will not be able to actually get very far, even with the best of counsel. Although this is a seriously black mark on the Show and could eventually be known as the reason for certain shows to be canceled. Yet we, the OG 405 fans know the real reasons for that show to now suck. Like JJ says in the intro "Street Racing Will Get You Killed QUICK". Even in the slow ass daily drivers that the 405 are currently so proud of.
Yea it’s sad but you know the risk whether your racing are bystanders even in NASCAR it’s a risk few spectators has been killed even on Saturday night short tracks dirt and asphalt
Get sim to 40k
It's a very unfortunate situation but the racers know the risk when they sit In the car and buckle up.
He was a racer. If he didn't like the street or feel uncomfortable, he could have not raced. I'm not trying to be cold towards the racer but he wasn't forced to race. He street raced he knows the danger of racing.
Who died?
JJ is the guy I worry about. Doing wheelies like he does seems foolish, gonna go in the crowd someday
I think the family will get a settlement, they won’t show that season of the snow on TV and that will be it… everything will go on like normal
I guarantee you he signed something releasing all liability.. I had to do the same thing just to stand on the starting line
Sad for what happened but I've raced with him quite a few times and this is not what he would have wanted I'm guessing and I guarantee he signed a release like everyone there does or he wouldn't even have been able to be on the show making passes.. racers die it's a sad part of the sport we love.. you don't get to blame the show because somebody you loved died doing what they wanted to do…. Some people have such a flawed way of thinking just looking for the easy way to often
Sim a outlaw street racer being filmed by Discovery must sight a waver/contract that outlines the danger of the filmed event ! I feel for the family this is so sad ! every racer knows the risks of there passion ! Sim slow down a bit on this one ! Street Outlaws will continue !! also your blogs are always the BEST !
He signed so many releases that they don't have a leg to stand on..
I'm sure he signed papers saying he assumed all risks and won't sue
Street racing is done on poor road at best all drivers signed wavers witch does not hold the company at fault
I'm calling bs, dont know for a fact but I'm betting waiver are signed for them to not be liable when something like this happens. Idk what they would sue, that guy was doing what he loved and 110% wanted to be there and knew the risk.
Did his car meet spec or was it not a concern because he was on the street
See my point he knew the risk rest in peace he’s home now
Doesnt matter if a waiver was signed. The production company takes on a level of responsibility when they get the permits and when they arrange the safety teams being there. If they have at any point paid any racers medical bills or anything that is them admitting some respinsibility for what happened. I dont agree with it but thats business.
They sign waivers for sure i had to sign a waiver just to go to the starting line at the npk event u can rest assured the signed a waiver
Jj picks those shitty roads cause thats the only way he can win its sad that someone had to die b4 anybody said anything
Nothing worth repeating about how horrible the driver getting killed was. That said… the drivers are all part of SAG and as such they would be required to sign what’s called “A Hold Harmless Agreement” which waives their right to sue the deepest pockets for negligence, which in this case is the production company and Discovery. Otherwise there would be no way to do the show. Being sure sounds a helluva lot more ominous than it can be and further, if the judge were to deem the suit “frivolous” the Plaintiffs can be held responsible for the legal fees of the party being sued.
And one more there are more Scumbag ambulance chasing lawyers than you can imagine that would file the suit for a standard 40% split of any proceeds that potentially could come their way. On the other hand… they can still be held responsible and forced to pay the legal fees of Discovery…and that will be well over $1m+ assuming Discovery has legitimate corporate counsel worthy of a fight. From my perspective the biggest risk from the suit lies squarely on the Plaintiff’s.
Like bobby said you know what your getting into
You most definitely have to sign a waiver for that kind of that production company is no way never ever going to get sued over that
You know it was a shame that happened but then people just like everybody else knows what happened every time you get in the car will you go on 170 or 20 mi an hour they sign the waiver to race they have to
They're going to have to find an abandoned Street long enough straighten up flat enough to race on there's no cross-sections and anything else coming in and they did it here in louiville it took him awhile but they did it the internet racing the cars in front of old tobacco and distillery they were like a half-mile long driveways
That being said still dangerous people still got shot people still got beat up got robbed it's it's not a game for the meek
People are always suing for something. They didn't make him race. But, somebody has to pay I guess.
Sim đź’Ş
If they sign a waiver,then unfortunately you know what you signed up for.So lawsuit will not go thru.
It is truly sad to have someone pass like that but it's really truly awful to have a family that is going to try and make bank over it , every driver and crew knew the risk but it just goes to show how sorry and lazy that some people are to try and take life changing money because they seen a way of tryin to get free money
with our country going sooo far left ,yes they will sue and yes they will settle it the way this county works .Will it end SOL NO!!!! the show is profitable for discovery or who ever is behind it. Yes release of limit of liability will help but YES anyone can sue for almost anything no matter how the viewer see it…
He chose his fate. Went down having fun. He could have went down in the shower scrubbing the corn off of his balloon knot.
I thing will come from it, possibly some changes to the contract. It’s like if someone died during any other filming or competition on TV. Not worried about it.
I call bs
The show ain’t going nowhere
They all know the risks and sign a waiver, this lawsuit should never stand in any court.
He signed up for it. He took the risk. Sorry for family. His action was voluntary in a very dangerous situation.
/not an expert, but…/ Just because you sign a waiver, or "accept the consequences" of what you're entering into when you get into a "street race", that doesn't mean there isn't a level of responsibility to be taken on by the producers of such an event — which is why they have insurance. For example, you can't just sign a waiver to allow someone to cook and eat you (!), the person doing the cooking and eating is not absolved of all responsibility just because of a signed waiver! If the insurance provider disagrees about the basis for a claim against them, that's why we have courts. Criminality is another "kettle of fish", and again that's for a court to decide if there was additional liability. I agree, doesn't look great for Street Outlaws, they may have to reconsider the viability of the concept.
Hey sim I don't think the show should be at fault we ad racers know the risks we take when we start in them cars I mean it's quite unfortunate that happened but I'm pretty sure they all signed some sort of contract and or waiver. As always keep up the awesome work let's go ttve đź’Ş đź’Ż
As JJ says " Every time you buckle in that car , might be the night you Die " That accident was Tragic and a loss of human life by accident is always incredibly sad . But , he knew the risks , just like all the drivers do . Sueing isn't going to bring him back . My family would be grateful I died doing something I loved .
Was there a waiver signed ? If not why were they on the set ?
That's bullshit nobody should get sued in this situation he know the risk he ran the road he did something he shouldn't have done and it sucks that the man died it does it really really does but your family should not be able to come back and Sue for this people like this make me sick
Maybe you should take some classes to learn how to spell. Sued
Can't believe the Safety crew couldn't respond faster nor him have a fire suppression system in place.I believe his family should get paid IMO for their loss!
There just money hungry but like you said they sign a waver which protects street outlaws. Don't get me wrongbit sucks that he died but it was his choice to race they did not make him race he did it on his own ..
Hello Sim, you know the biggest problem street outlaws has is it's an illegal street race. That means people will want to do the same thing no matter what they say. My brothers and I were involved for years until they hit the track, which is where we stayed. On street outlaws, the race is run as safely as possible, but most do it like my friend did and die. It was just a matter of time before this happened. NPK is the replacement. Having said that. I love the new show. Real cars and trucks most people can build at home.
Of course, the family is going to file a lawsuit. They have that right, but with the signed wavers to protect the company they will not be able to actually get very far, even with the best of counsel. Although this is a seriously black mark on the Show and could eventually be known as the reason for certain shows to be canceled. Yet we, the OG 405 fans know the real reasons for that show to now suck. Like JJ says in the intro "Street Racing Will Get You Killed QUICK". Even in the slow ass daily drivers that the 405 are currently so proud of.
Yea it’s sad but you know the risk whether your racing are bystanders even in NASCAR it’s a risk few spectators has been killed even on Saturday night short tracks dirt and asphalt
Get sim to 40k
It's a very unfortunate situation but the racers know the risk when they sit In the car and buckle up.
He was a racer. If he didn't like the street or feel uncomfortable, he could have not raced. I'm not trying to be cold towards the racer but he wasn't forced to race. He street raced he knows the danger of racing.
Who died?
JJ is the guy I worry about. Doing wheelies like he does seems foolish, gonna go in the crowd someday
I think the family will get a settlement, they won’t show that season of the snow on TV and that will be it… everything will go on like normal
I guarantee you he signed something releasing all liability.. I had to do the same thing just to stand on the starting line
Sad for what happened but I've raced with him quite a few times and this is not what he would have wanted I'm guessing and I guarantee he signed a release like everyone there does or he wouldn't even have been able to be on the show making passes.. racers die it's a sad part of the sport we love.. you don't get to blame the show because somebody you loved died doing what they wanted to do…. Some people have such a flawed way of thinking just looking for the easy way to often
Sim a outlaw street racer being filmed by Discovery must sight a waver/contract that outlines the danger of the filmed event ! I feel for the family this is so sad ! every racer knows the risks of there passion ! Sim slow down a bit on this one ! Street Outlaws will continue !! also your blogs are always the BEST !
He signed so many releases that they don't have a leg to stand on..
I'm sure he signed papers saying he assumed all risks and won't sue
Street racing is done on poor road at best all drivers signed wavers witch does not hold the company at fault
I'm calling bs, dont know for a fact but I'm betting waiver are signed for them to not be liable when something like this happens. Idk what they would sue, that guy was doing what he loved and 110% wanted to be there and knew the risk.
Did his car meet spec or was it not a concern because he was on the street
See my point he knew the risk rest in peace he’s home now
Doesnt matter if a waiver was signed. The production company takes on a level of responsibility when they get the permits and when they arrange the safety teams being there. If they have at any point paid any racers medical bills or anything that is them admitting some respinsibility for what happened. I dont agree with it but thats business.
They sign waivers for sure i had to sign a waiver just to go to the starting line at the npk event u can rest assured the signed a waiver
Jj picks those shitty roads cause thats the only way he can win its sad that someone had to die b4 anybody said anything
Nothing worth repeating about how horrible the driver getting killed was. That said… the drivers are all part of SAG and as such they would be required to sign what’s called “A Hold Harmless Agreement” which waives their right to sue the deepest pockets for negligence, which in this case is the production company and Discovery. Otherwise there would be no way to do the show. Being sure sounds a helluva lot more ominous than it can be and further, if the judge were to deem the suit “frivolous” the Plaintiffs can be held responsible for the legal fees of the party being sued.
And one more there are more Scumbag ambulance chasing lawyers than you can imagine that would file the suit for a standard 40% split of any proceeds that potentially could come their way. On the other hand… they can still be held responsible and forced to pay the legal fees of Discovery…and that will be well over $1m+ assuming Discovery has legitimate corporate counsel worthy of a fight.
From my perspective the biggest risk from the suit lies squarely on the Plaintiff’s.
Like bobby said you know what your getting into
You most definitely have to sign a waiver for that kind of that production company is no way never ever going to get sued over that
You know it was a shame that happened but then people just like everybody else knows what happened every time you get in the car will you go on 170 or 20 mi an hour they sign the waiver to race they have to
They're going to have to find an abandoned Street long enough straighten up flat enough to race on there's no cross-sections and anything else coming in and they did it here in louiville it took him awhile but they did it the internet racing the cars in front of old tobacco and distillery they were like a half-mile long driveways
That being said still dangerous people still got shot people still got beat up got robbed it's it's not a game for the meek
People are always suing for something. They didn't make him race. But, somebody has to pay I guess.
Sim đź’Ş
If they sign a waiver,then unfortunately you know what you signed up for.So lawsuit will not go thru.
It is truly sad to have someone pass like that but it's really truly awful to have a family that is going to try and make bank over it , every driver and crew knew the risk but it just goes to show how sorry and lazy that some people are to try and take life changing money because they seen a way of tryin to get free money
with our country going sooo far left ,yes they will sue and yes they will settle it the way this county works .Will it end SOL NO!!!! the show is profitable for discovery or who ever is behind it. Yes release of limit of liability will help but YES anyone can sue for almost anything no matter how the viewer see it…
He chose his fate. Went down having fun. He could have went down in the shower scrubbing the corn off of his balloon knot.
I thing will come from it, possibly some changes to the contract. It’s like if someone died during any other filming or competition on TV. Not worried about it.
I call bs
The show ain’t going nowhere
They all know the risks and sign a waiver, this lawsuit should never stand in any court.