1969 Pontiac GTO Judge vs 1968 Pontiac Firebird RAII | STOCK DRAG RACE



1969 Pontiac GTO Judge Ram Air IV vs 1968 Pontiac Firebird Ram Air II. Pure Stock Muscle Car Drag Race. Factory Stock Drag Race.
First car is a 1969 Pontiac GTO The Judge. The other is a 1968 Pontiac Firebird. The GTO Judge has a Ram Air IV 400 V8, and the Firebird has a Ram Air II 400 V8. Both cars have 4-speed manual transmissions, and both the Firebird and the GTO have 4.10 rear gears. Weight of the GTO Judge, with driver included, is 3642 pounds. Weight of the ’68 Firebird is 3630 pounds with its driver included. There were only 239 4-speed hardtop GTO Judge cars produced in 1969, and only 98 4-speed Firebird Ram Air II cars in 1968. Hi Performance Cars Magazine tested a 1968 Firebird Ram Air (NOT a Ram Air II) and with an automatic transmission and 3.90 rear gears it ran 13.83 seconds @ 103.58 mph. Motor Trend tested a Ram Air IV GTO with a 4-speed manual and 3.90 rear gears and it ran 0-60 in 6.4 seconds, and 13.9 seconds @ 100.5 mph.
Pure Stock Muscle Car Drag Race (PSMCDR). FAST Factory Appearing Stock Tire factory stock. Super Car Drag Race.
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The rules for PSMCDR are listed below:

For 1955 to 1979 musclecars built in United States and Canadian assembly plants with a minimum warranty of 12 months and 12,000 miles.
Any car running faster than 11.50 will be disqualified and will not have a qualifying time recorded.
Any convertible running faster than 13.50 will be disqualified and will not have a qualifying time recorded.
Casting numbers must be correct for the year and horsepower claimed including intake manifold, heads, and exhaust manifolds. Blocks do not have to be “numbers matching,” but they must be the correct displacement. Overbores up to .070″ are allowed. Stock cranks only.
All Engines – 1.5 extra points allowed over advertised.
The camshaft must be correct for the year, model, and horsepower claimed for the type of lifter (hydraulic or solid). Roller cams NOT allowed.
The valve train must be factory stock for the year, make, and horsepower claimed.
The ignition system must be stock, including the distributor, cap, coil, and wires. Points may be replaced with any electronic conversion that fits under the stock distributor cap.
The carburetor must be correct for the year, make, and horsepower claimed. Jetting and metering changes are permitted. THE CHOKE ASSEMBLY MUST BE IN PLACE AND FUNCTIONAL!
Cast-iron exhaust manifolds are mandatory and must be correct for the year, model, and horsepower claimed. Internal modifications to the exhaust manifolds are NOT allowed. Under no circumstances will headers be allowed, including those cars that came with headers delivered in the trunk. Pipes must be routed as they were originally for the year, make, model, and engine combination. Mufflers must be stock looking in design, that is, oval in shape. No glasspacks or straight pipes allowed unless installed as original equipment. Maximum muffler inlet and outlet size is 2.5 inches. X & H pipes allowed.
The radiator must be correct for the year, make, model, and horsepower claimed. No lightweight, aluminum radiators allowed.
The camshaft must be correct for the year, model, and horsepower claimed for the type of lifter (hydraulic or solid). Roller cams NOT allowed. Duration at .050″ lobe lift must be within 1% of factory specs. Lift at the valve must be within 2% of factory specs. Maximum stall limited to 2200 rpm.
The transmission must be correct for year, make, model and engine of the car. 3-speed manuals may be upgraded to the correct 4-speed if originally available.
The rear axle must be of the same manufacturer as the car. Any gear ratio is allowed.
Reproduction tires or radial tires only.You are allowed to run tires one size over stock.
Factory wheels only.

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20 Comments

  1. Dream cars from my youth. It was great to see them go head to head. I had a friend whose Dad had a Judge project car,, and I kept trying to buy it off him because he did nothing to it in the 5 years he had it. He kept saying he would never sell it. I would ask him about once a month and even offered to help him with it. Always NO. Then one day I went to his house, and it was gone. He sold it. I was so pissed. If I had bought that car in 1985, I bet I would still have it today. I used to sit in it and look out at the tach on the hood, imagining goiing down the strip and seeing the needle redline, then shifting. Wish I could have bought it. He sold it for $5200.00. Just think….

  2. Love almost all if the Pontiacs from the 50 to the 2000s I have a 2001 ws6 trans am and have races that track many times. I would almost want to pull the twin turbos off to run the stock class. If they allow up to this year of car.

  3. Seems to me thr 69 gto was meant for racing, my dad had a 70 gto ,my uncle hsd the 69 gto, when i was a kid in the early 80s my uncle would racr at keystone raceway hour so outside Pittsburgh whrre i grew up, brings back great memories of being at the r as ce track alot weekends, my uncle won alot of races trophies an all, but his one biggest adversary seemed to be the buick gsx and grand national

  4. the judge here comes the judge the judge decides the race not you and the judge's verdict where you lose can't argue with the judge's decision next case on the stand

  5. My brother has a 4 speed 70 and he put aluminum aftermarket Ram Air IV heads, RA IV cam, and aluminum intake. That's it. That car is crazy fast.

  6. The weight just doesn't seem right. I have a 96 WS6 that is half plastic. The doors, fenders, nose, rear cover, and hood are all fiberglass/plastic. The only thing heavy is the hatch. It weighs almost 3,400 lbs. I owned a 68 and I know the metal body panels are thicker because I cut them. I know the doors are heavier. The engine is dramatically heavier. The seats and wheels are heavier. This just doesn't add up.

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